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Mark Pincus: You Don't Need to Innovate to Be Successful — Founder Mode, the Abyss & Failure Machines

You don't need to innovate to win — you need to be a PhD in what's proven, isolate one point of true innovation, and build a failure machine at the top of the funnel because all new fails until it doesn't.

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Why this is in the corpus

Second, deeper Pincus interview (The Knowledge Project) covering founder mode, the psychological "abyss" between successes, failure machines, the MVP trap, moral contracts with engineers, and the Supercell deal he didn't force through despite voting control — a dense playbook layer beyond his Lenny's appearance.

Summary for skimmers

FarmVille/Zynga founder Mark Pincus on why copying beats inventing, how to run a failure machine, founder mode vs false democracy, and the discipline of the book-of-life annual practice.

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Principles

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Principle

Instincts are almost always right; ideas are usually wrong

Hold your instincts tightly and your specific ideas loosely.

With Tribe, Pincus had three winning instincts and one losing idea; the lesson is to separate the durable instinct from the disposable idea so you pivot the idea without abandoning the instinct.

Trust the instinct, keep killing and replacing the idea.

“We learn over time, hopefully as founders that our instincts are almost always right and our ideas are usually wrong.”Mark Pincus

Principle

What you think is 'better' is actually 'new'

Correctly classify additions: much of what feels like 'better' is really 'new' and must be tested as such.

Putting real friends' photos around the poker table felt like an improvement but was genuinely new — and therefore subject to 'all new fails' and heavy variant testing.

Re-classify your 'improvements' — if it isn't proven, it's new, so test it like new.

“what you think is better is actually new. The new in Zynga poker was pictures of real people, often your friends”Mark Pincus

Principle

Play offense: start from what if everything goes right

Enter every venture asking what if everything goes right, not what if it goes wrong.

Pincus treats offense-vs-defense as the founding mental state — the posture that determines whether you are ready for success or already lost before starting.

Ask 'what does right look like and am I ready for it?' before you ask what could go wrong.

“We've gotta be in a mental state where we're playing offense and not defense. You've gotta be in this place that you're thinking, what if everything goes right? If we're starting with what if everything goes wrong, you're playing defense and you've lost before you're even out of the gates.”Mark Pincus

Principle

Know your goal or suffer death by a thousand compromises

A clear goal is the only defense against accumulating compromises that produce a company you don't want.

Pincus made Zynga's first raise deliberately hard to keep everyone aligned on the trip, precisely because his career pattern had been contorting to impress firms and land people until the company drifted from him.

Define the goal explicitly so you can decline the compromises that erode it.

“know your goal or suffer a death by a thousand compromises. Because what I had done my whole career and most of us do, is compromise to get that next engineer CTO investor.”Mark Pincus

Principle

True signal needs no stats; heat you just know

If you need lots of stats to prove the signal, you don't have the signal.

Pincus calls it heat — like knowing you found your person; when it's real everything lights up 'like Christmas morning' and every metric agrees, whereas absence sends you cherry-picking a click-through rate to reassure yourself.

Trust unambiguous heat; distrust the signal you have to argue for with data.

“when you have true signal, we all know it. You don't need anyone to tell you. And when you don't have true signal, you need lots and lots of stats and other things. 'cause you're like, is this the signal? Isn't it, it's not.”Mark Pincus

Principle

Firing weak performers is an obligation to your strong ones

Keeping ineffective people breaks the moral contract with the people who actually carry the work.

Pincus distinguishes weak from bad: the test is effectiveness and taking hills, not hours or intelligence; visible undeserved promotions and pay erode the real culture faster than anything.

Remove ineffective people to honor the ones taking hills.

“you owe it to, in that moral contract, to your good employees, to fire the weak people. And they're not bad people. They may be really smart, they are not effective in your organization.”Mark Pincus

Principle

Real 'better' is mundane: cheaper, free, or less friction

The 'better' in proven/better/new is usually a boring reduction in price or friction, not a feature.

Zynga Poker's 'better' was no-download (enabled by no real-money, hence no security requirement) — because every click loses half your users and 'download this' loses 90%+, so removing friction was statistically proven better.

Chase boring reductions in price and friction, not exciting features.

“better is usually half price or free or no dollar. It's, it's something very mundane and basic.”Mark Pincus

Principle

All new fails until it finally doesn't

Assume all new fails, so you innovate in small atomic units and test many variants rather than one.

Pincus frames this not as anti-innovation but in service of it: because new fails, you cannot try one new idea or one version of it — you try many variants of each new idea in the smallest atomic units of innovation.

Budget novelty like it will fail; concentrate and multiply your bets accordingly.

“all new fails until it finally doesn't. And at Zynga today, the mantra inside the company is still all new fails. If you assume all new fails, you probably won't be let down.”Mark Pincus

Principle

Trade half the valuation for all of the control

Control is worth more than valuation because it preserves the right to bet on your own instinct.

Pincus ties this to founder mode: you owe it to yourself to lose because of yourself and control your own destiny — but control is a license to have your own style, not to be a jerk, since people will leave.

Optimize deals for control, not headline valuation.

“take half the valuation if it's all of the control and it means you have the right to do it your way. It doesn't mean you have the right to be a jerk. And If you are, people will leave.”Mark Pincus

Principle

Earn the right to change something by becoming a PhD in what's proven

You have no right to change a feature until you are the world's leading expert on the proven version.

Pincus made a newly minted PM show his 'PhD in profiles' — the best game profiles ever made and why — before touching the poker profile; deconstruction is both art and science and a lifelong craft.

Deconstruct the proven at the pixel level before you earn the right to change it.

“Before you have the right to do better or new, you need to be a PhD in what's already Proven.”Mark Pincus

Principle

You owe your strong builders a moral contract

Leaders owe builders a reciprocal commitment to unlock value from what they build.

Pincus saw how engineers get screwed when a CEO or salesperson abandons the hill they were told to take; the moral contract says if you take the hill, I will be in the trenches unlocking value — which makes them do more next time.

Match your team's effort to build with equal effort to ship and monetize it.

“there should be a moral contract. If you are going to take that hill, I'm gonna show you that I am going to work just as hard to unlock value outta the work you did.”Mark Pincus

Frameworks

Reusable systems and operating models — including when they help and when they break.

Framework

Proven / Better / New

Deconstruct any product into Proven (copy), Better (reduce), and New (one tested bet).

Slack is proven/better/new over HipChat; Zynga Poker copied real poker (proven), removed the download (better), and added friends' photos (new). The diagnostic: be a PhD in the proven, make better mundane and vote-tested, and treat new as isolated and expected-to-fail. Founders lose when they try to reinvent every part at once.

Pick one atomic unit of innovation; legally copy the rest.

“the concept of Proven Better New was... take something Proven for this audience and this function and this platform... what's Proven you should legally copy like you should don't mess with anything that's Proven.”Mark Pincus

Framework

The Book of Life

Run an annual written practice that holds you accountable to your future self.

It began when Pincus, at 28 and 'washed up', sat in a synagogue writing why his life sucked and committed to a lifetime quit on cigarettes on October 19, 1994; every smoke-free day was proof of control. He has done a book-of-life every year since, and leans on it especially in the abyss.

Each year, write what your future self will thank you for — then do it.

“a practice like the Book of Life, what it's done for me... is just be strategic about your life. Like be thoughtful about... what would your future self Thank you for doing this year.”Mark Pincus

Framework

Democratic Dictatorship

Hear every voice, then make the decision alone — company is not a democracy.

Pincus insists there is one CEO, one chef: a good CEO seeks truths from everywhere and then decides, explicitly not choosing the most popular option in the company. The model resolves the false-democracy failure mode without becoming a closed autocracy.

Solicit all input, then own the single decision — and never decide by popularity.

“The way I ran the company was what I called a democratic dictatorship. And I said, I want everyone, everyone's voice to be heard and then I'll be the single vote.”Mark Pincus

Framework

The Failure Machine

Build a machine that fails fast at the top of the funnel to find the rare winning idea.

Diagnostic sequence: start from instinct/anecdote about what's broken, generate ranked ideas, build them wrong-and-fast (vibe coded) to a minimum idea state, click-test hundreds daily, and demand a threshold click rate before building anything right. Words With Friends' team ran this to find weekly achievements.

Instrument the top of the funnel to fail fast and rank ideas by real clicks.

“We need a failure machine at the top of the funnel. We need to get to a minimum idea state that gets vibe coded... build it wrong before we don't have time to build it right.”Mark Pincus

Signals

What appears to be shifting, for whom it matters, and what happens if you ignore it.

Signal

Voice will be the interface we regret not using sooner

Voice is the next big less-friction interface and will feel obvious in hindsight.

Pincus notes voice became a hot meme early last year (citing Reid Hoffman being 'voice pilled'), died down, but underpins many new devices in development; he expects a durable shift to ears and voices over typing and texting.

Watch voice-first devices; the friction law favors them.

“I think voice will be the, the biggest thing that'll feel obvious that we wasted so much time typing and texting and reading. And I think we're going to turn on our, our ears and our voices a lot more.”Mark Pincus

Signal

Anything that can be free or frictionless on the internet will be

On the internet, whatever can become free or frictionless eventually does.

This is the same Web 2.0 conviction Pincus and Reid Hoffman held ('anything on the internet that can be free will be free, starting with data') and the mechanism behind Zynga Poker's no-download 'better'. It is a forward test: assume your paid or high-friction step will be competed to free.

Assume your paywall or friction step will be removed by a competitor — do it first.

“Anything that can be free on the internet will be free. Anything that can be less clicks, less friction will be less friction.”Mark Pincus

Opportunities

Only included where there is a buyer, a real wedge, and a plausible revenue path — not vague idea theater.

Opportunity

Markets everyone calls mature often haven't started

Latent demand hides inside markets everyone has written off as mature.

Search before Google was 'mature slow growth' (Google was the 56th search engine); games in 2007 were a mature 23B industry — until social gaming made it accessible to adults like Pincus who would have played if it asked little time and gave real social value. The opportunity is the non-consumer, not the served user.

Hunt latent demand in 'mature' markets by reframing the product for the excluded mass market.

“I love these markets and they're all around us where we think they're mature and over and they haven't even started yet... games was the same thing in 2007. The whole video game industry worldwide was like $23 billion. It was mature, not interesting. And yet there was, I believe this latent demand”Mark Pincus

Lessons still worth keeping

Useful takeaways that did not fully clear the bar for durable principle status.

Lesson

Zynga survived a platform ultimatum that killed nearly every other Facebook app

Facebook gave Zynga a weekend to sign captive terms or be taken down; only Zynga and Spotify survived the ecosystem.

Pincus describes the entire Facebook experience as a near-death — 'a five story high unicycle' with a new story added constantly; a low-level PM could deprecate the whole left rail and bury every app. Zynga's scale (10% of Facebook revenue, a named risk factor at IPO) was its only protection.

If you must build on a platform, race to become leverage the platform can't afford to lose.

“they said you have till Monday to sign this agreement or we're gonna take down your apps, which was their right... at the point that they went public a year later, they had to put in their risk factors like the Zynga dependency. 'cause we were like 20% of their page views and 10% of their revenues”Mark Pincus

Lesson

Tribe was a sinking speedboat Pincus refused to bail

Tribe had great virality and terrible retention; Pincus doubled down instead of fixing retention and failed.

When Zuckerberg and Sean Parker came through his office a year in, Pincus could see they had gotten trust right — the exact thing he'd gotten 'so wrong, it's unbelievable' (he built Craigslist-meets-Friendster trust for extroverts and Burning Man people, not the mainstream). He refused to take the insight and stuck with the losing idea.

Diagnose terrible retention as a hole to fix, not a volume problem — and swallow your ego to take the proven insight.

“I had amazing virality and I had amazing user growth and I had terrible retention and should have told me something... it was like a sinking speedboat... the real answer to sinking speedboat is to fix the hole in the bottom, You know, not go faster, more people.”Mark Pincus

Lesson

A failure machine turned Words With Friends from a projected collapse into the turnaround

Pincus reversed a projected 120M-to-79M revenue drop into 180M revenue / 100M contribution by running a failure machine on Words With Friends.

Everyone wanted to pull resources and ship the game to India to shutter it; the team had spent six months and hundreds of engineering days on 'fast play' that only 1% of players clicked (against a 25% bar). After daily click-testing anchored on the core audience, they found weekly achievements — players wanted to feel they were getting better each week.

Turn a dying franchise around by testing at the top of the funnel for what the core audience will thank you for.

“the game when I came back was projected to do, to drop from 120 million in revenues to 79 million in revenues in the next 12 months... first game did 180 million in revenues, did a hundred million in contribution... And that was the beginning of the whole turnaround.”Mark Pincus

Lesson

Not forcing the Supercell deal despite voting control cost Zynga its Instagram moment

Pincus had a 400M handshake and voting control to buy Supercell but let his board block it; Supercell made 500M profit the next year.

The board had shifted from 'you walk on water' to 'question everything' after the 200M OMGPop write-off; the company lawyer (not his) warned he'd be personally sued if he replaced the board to force the deal. He backed down — 'I didn't have Elon's balls. Elon would've just said, fine, sue me.'

Founder mode is only real when you exercise control against your board at the decisive moment.

“I had a handshake with Ilkka, the founder and CEO to buy the company for 400 million in cash... can't I just override them? I have voting control? And he said, technically yes. Really no... Supercell made 500 million in profit the next year and that was like our Instagram moment.”Mark Pincus

The Plays

Try these this week

Verb-first executable actions — each one tied to a stated outcome in the episode.

Make everyone write down what they are 'CEO of'

Outcome: Have every employee define and post the one important thing they are 'CEO of.'

Context: Pincus used this to scale support.com past 35 people: each person wrote what they were CEO of, something others understood and believed mattered. Giving people more responsibility than they think they deserve scares and energizes them and makes them like the job for the challenge, not the title. It became a Zynga value: 'be a CEO on outcomes.'

“I put a sticky note on the wall, I wrote everyone's names and I said, by the end of the week, write down what your CEO of and it should be something everyone else understands and believes is important... everyone's gonna be a CEO. Everyone here needs to own something that that matters.”
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set within a week, ongoing per

Before you start

· a team small enough to make ownership legible
· leader comfortable delegating real scope

Anchor every product meeting on 'what will our players thank us for?'

Outcome: Open and close every product meeting with the question 'what will our players thank us for?'

Context: Pincus imposed this on the neglected Words With Friends team, reading app reviews and ratings (which had fallen from high-fours to mid-threes) each meeting; the team initially thought it was an unfair question, then internalized it — and it became the anchor of the turnaround.

“I started and ended every meeting with what will our players thank us for?... Eventually we put a neon sign in the lobby that said, what will our players thank us for?”
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ongoing; drove a 12-month turnaround per

Before you start

· access to reviews/ratings
· a team willing to be re-anchored on the core audience

Build it wrong and fast to get signal before building it right

Outcome: Build the idea wrong and fast to get signal; build it right only if signal appears.

Context: Pincus argues the MVP trap wastes time reaching 'viable'; with AI/vibe-coding you can reach a minimum idea state that conveys the gist. The worst response is 'meh' (a 5-7); 'no' is more useful. Prove right first, then invest in building right.

“I like say build it wrong before we don't have time to build it right. Don't fucking build it right, build it fucking wrong and build it fast and don't make it viable. Viable is the bad word.”
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days, not the months an MVP takes per

Before you start

· fast prototyping / vibe-coding capability
· tolerance for shipping something intentionally unpolished

Abolish one-on-ones and redirect every complaint to its target

Outcome: Kill one-on-ones and send every complainer to talk directly to the person they complained about.

Context: Pincus learned this from Bing Gordon relaying Jeff Bezos, who avoided one-on-ones because they created politics and wasted his time. When someone complains, Pincus tells the target 'X is complaining about you, come talk to me,' then walks away; people quickly learn to stop. Consistency is what makes it land — 'Mark doesn't do one-on-ones, don't take it personally.'

“I don't do one-on-ones... if anyone did finally get my ear and complain about someone else, you stop. You call the other person and you say, Hey, Shane's complaining about you. I think you should come up and talk to him. And you walk away and then everyone knows there's no politics.”
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ongoing per

Before you start

· a leader willing to forgo private status meetings
· cultural tolerance for direct confrontation

Filter valuation-sensitive VCs with a 'zero or multi-billion' frame

Outcome: Frame the outcome as binary so entry-valuation-sensitive investors deselect themselves.

Context: Raising Zynga's first round, cash-flow positive at 200K/month, Pincus told Sequoia that if they cared about 15 vs 20 pre, this wasn't their deal — it would be zero or multi-billion. It aligned who invested (and presaged today's call-option thinking). He deliberately made the raise hard to keep everyone aligned on the trip.

“If you are worried about whether it's 15 pre or 20 pre don't play because you're looking for an outcome that you're never gonna see that we're never selling this company for 200 million is either like zero or multi-billion.”
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one fundraising round per

Before you start

· genuine conviction the outcome is binary
· enough strength (e.g. cash flow) to walk from investors

Click-test ideas at the top of the funnel before building them

Outcome: Gate every new idea on a minimum top-of-funnel click rate before you build it.

Context: The Words With Friends team had spent six months and hundreds of engineering days on a 'fast play' mode that only 1% of players clicked; Pincus's 25% minimum revealed it was a crime against the audience. After switching to daily click-testing of hundreds of ideas, they found weekly achievements, which a huge percentage clicked.

“we need like 25% minimum. And they said, well we think we can get to 5%... And they said, well, we're currently at about 1%. So 99% of words of friends players say no fucking way when you show them this game and you're building this game.”
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continuous; runs ahead of engineering per

Before you start

· live traffic from the core audience
· instrumented click surfaces
· willingness to kill six-month builds

Demand a 'PhD' and a war room before anyone changes a proven feature

Outcome: Gate any change to a proven feature on a documented 'PhD' in the best existing versions.

Context: When a newly minted PM proudly showed a new poker profile, Pincus asked to see his PhD in profiles — the best game/mobile/poker profiles ever made and why. The PM couldn't, so he hadn't earned the right to change it. The remedy is a war room of the best examples, studied at the pixel level.

“show me your PhD in profiles. Show me what are the best game profiles on mobile ever done and, and tell me why... I wanna see a war room full of profiles you need to care at the pixel level before you have the right.”
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before any build starts per

Before you start

· access to competitor/best-in-class examples
· a review culture that can say 'not yet'

Wire money instantly when a consumer founder says the servers are full

Outcome: When a consumer product's servers are full from real demand, fund it immediately.

Context: Pincus wrote the first check into Napster when Sean Parker (who had worked for him at Freeloader at 16) emailed that their two servers were full and they needed more. Servers overflowing is true signal — the cocktail-party heat of people connecting with no one in between — and rare enough that you just send the money.

“I was the first check into Napster because he said we have like two servers and they're full and we need money for more servers. And you always just send money when someone says that in consumer. That's rare.”
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immediate on signal per

Before you start

· capital to deploy quickly
· judgment to distinguish true signal from vanity metrics

Clone yourself with a tech-assistant who shadows every meeting

Outcome: Appoint a smart-misfit tech assistant who shadows all your meetings to absorb your judgment.

Context: Pincus adopted this from Andy Grove via Bill Gates and Bezos (inside Zynga it was called 'passing vampire blood'). The tech assistant is not a chief of staff or EA — they shadow every meeting, work product side-projects, and become a mini-me. At Amazon nearly every C-staff member, including Andy Jassy, was once Bezos's tech assistant; Pincus's assistants went on to found companies.

“you pick someone from the organization who's promising, I usually pick the people who didn't fit in the smart misfits and they become your tech assistant... They go to every meeting you go to and they are working on just product stuff for you.”
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months to a year per assistant per

Before you start

· a founder/leader willing to be shadowed constantly
· tolerance for entrepreneurial 'organ rejection' elsewhere in the org

Decision Moments

Actual decisions, real outcomes

Specific decisions narrated in the episode with their outcomes and transferable lessons.

On a family sailboat in the Virgin Islands, a long-building conflict with his father peaked after Pincus saved a grounded boat; his father, humiliated, said 'it could only be one captain' and announced 'I've decided to take you outta college to finish raising you.'

Did: He refused to submit to his father's plan for who he should become — said 'fuck you, bye,' left immediately, rented a sea plane and flew away, then transferred from Michigan to Wharton (Penn) where he had already been accepted.Outcome: Made a clean, irreversible break from his father's expectations and took control of his own path; Pincus frames it as a pivotal early moment in becoming his own person rather than a character in his father's movie.

A clean break from others' definition of you can be the precondition for agency; the sailboat also seeded his 'one captain' view of the single-vote CEO.

Part of an emerging decision pattern across multiple episodes

As Zynga CEO after the OMGPop write-off with a hostile, patronizing board, Pincus had a 400M cash handshake to buy Supercell and held voting control; the board said 'until you show us you can manage what you've got, you can't buy anything else,' and the company lawyer warned he'd be personally sued if he replaced the board to force it.

Did: Despite technically having the votes, he backed down and did not force the acquisition — 'technically yes, really no... I won't do it.'Outcome: Supercell made 500 million in profit the next year; Pincus calls it Zynga's missed 'Instagram moment' and a different-trajectory error — 'I didn't have Elon's balls.'

Formal control is only real if you have the conviction to bear the personal risk of using it against your board at the decisive moment.

Part of an emerging decision pattern across multiple episodes

Returning as Zynga CEO for a turnaround, the prior CEO had bet on a slate of new games while core franchises were neglected; Words With Friends was projected to drop from 120M to 79M in revenue and everyone wanted to pull resources and ship it to India to shutter it.

Did: He refused to shutter it, made the team read app reviews and start and end every meeting with 'what will our players thank us for?', killed the 1%-click 'fast play' feature, and instituted daily click-testing of hundreds of ideas — a failure machine — landing on weekly achievements.Outcome: The game did 180M in revenue and 100M in contribution — more contribution than the prior revenue projection — and became the start of the whole company turnaround.

A failure machine anchored on the core audience's gratitude beats a slate of ambitious new games; test the top of the funnel before building.

Part of an emerging decision pattern across multiple episodes

At 28, feeling washed up after career-limiting honesty at TCI/Malone and Bain, Pincus sat in a synagogue writing about why his life sucked and landed on the one thing he controlled but hated — smoking.

Did: On October 19, 1994 he did a 'lifetime quit' on cigarettes and turned the daily proof of control into an annual written practice he calls the Book of Life, asking 'what would your future self thank you for?'Outcome: Each smoke-free day became evidence he could change his circumstances; the Book of Life became a lifelong strategic-accountability practice he leans on especially during 'the abyss' between successes.

A single kept commitment can rebuild a sense of agency; institutionalize reflection as an annual accountability practice to your future self.

Part of an emerging decision pattern across multiple episodes

Tensions surfaced

Contradictions and trade-offs the episode raises — judgment calls a thoughtful operator has to navigate.

Tension

Voting control vs. real power under liability and a hostile board

Legal control and usable control diverge; only conviction closes the gap.

Pincus preaches trading valuation for control and owning your destiny, but when he had the votes to force the Supercell deal, the company lawyer's personal-liability warning stopped him. Elon 'would've said, fine, sue me' — the resolution is that control is only as real as the founder's willingness to bear the risk of using it.

Founder-mode control is only real if you will accept personal liability to exercise it.

“can't I just override them? I have voting control? And he said, technically yes. Really no. He said, you could fire all the board members and put in place who you want and they might vote for your deal and then you'll for sure be sued personally”Mark Pincus

Tension

Legally copy the proven vs. taste rejects the derivative

You must copy the proven, but copying without adding something is rejected as derivative.

Pincus holds both: don't mess with what's proven (legally copy it), and yet blatant copying feels icky. The doctrine reconciling them is proven/better/new — copy the proven faithfully but earn the right by innovating on one important front, moving the world ahead somewhere.

Resolve the copy-vs-originality tension by copying faithfully and innovating on exactly one front.

“Copying sounds bad. You don't wanna copy someone's homework... but then we juxtapose that with like Steve Jobs, he has famous quote like... great artists copy and the Masters Steel... did you add something to the conversation? Have you innovated on some important front?”Mark Pincus

Corpus connection

Where this episode fits for retrieval

What kinds of decisions this briefing is best pulled into.

Primary decisions

• product-strategy
• strategic-bet
• hire
• fire
• pivot